> Take another listen. --Napoleon. >Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. and she replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," Mandy says, "I know." The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. at the> ceremony/orgy. It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. Much as you often dream of people, in a distorted way, whom you met while awake. Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. 2. Why would he demand that she take off> her mask if this were so? This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? <<<<<<<<<> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? Eyes Wide Shut is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced and co-written by Stanley Kubrick. Yes, the three scenes - at Ziegler's party, at the Somerton ritualthe following night, and at the hospital morgue the next day - thatfeature Mandy/the 'masked woman' - remain ambiguous to the end. ". Are we not acceptingZiegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectivelyinterpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlierevents of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeplysuspect account? ANSWERS: 4. <<<<<<<<<<<>. : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. in fact if you look very closely, Mandy on the Slab, winks. In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, > etc. Weve got a beautiful feminine version of the lead mask that features a baroque pattern and crystal embellishments, as well as a feathered mask similar to the WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. There are many aspects of it that ARE still a mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. Being "all a Charade," doesn't mean it was all a dream. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". "The ng will die when there are no longer any participants. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I know." Even Ziegler only uses that wordin reference to his own earlier party, while referring to the Somertonrituals always more elusively: "I was there, at the House", "what ifwhat happened was a fake, a charade", etc, but no mention of any'party' at Somerton. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. orpsychotherapists. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). WebSynopsis. What does the mask on the pillow at the end of Eyes Wide Shutmean? > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. The "over the rainbow" remark earlier at Zeigler's party was already a suggestion for Bill to think of his patient who owned "Rainbow Fashions." >He also must have recognized> the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a> tinge of distinctive accent. OT. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. As for Kelpzoid's rants on the topic - isn't there a RAW Illuminatusng out there somewhere? I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). '<<<<<<<<<<<> I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all wearingmasks? >> The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all> along. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any > way. Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? (meaning > the Mysterious woman), ME"So..Victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the> women at the party, well Victor, maybe i'm missing something > but what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. WebThe bodies of more completely nude masked women assail Bills voyeuristic eyes (and those of the audience). Was she the women at the party?" WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very. Please either stop orshape up. One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. I never said Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when > we study it. > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. >In a big crowd of masked> people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is). WebEyes Wide Shut. And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. Was she the women at the party?" > Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. The movie is based on the 1920's novella Dream Storyand Kubrick developed the project for decades, and once considered a slightly more comedic take with Steve Martin in the lead role. But maybe he's just practicing forhis Boddhisatva qualification tests.- you know, the 'enlightening thegreat unwashed masses' thing. >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. 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