What can you accomplish by not having a conversation that might solve problems? I never thought Jamaicans were mean! TRUTH! Theres a big detachment there. Nairaland - Copyright 2005 - 2023 Oluwaseun Osewa. So sorry, Im just seeing this. Ruth: Its embedded somehow in the tradition of, you know, centuries. So, its not an attraction per se, but if somebody came to Ghana and didnt go to a market, not the craft market, not a tourist market, the market, which is like the mall for locals, then youd be missing the whole, youd be missing the whole beat. I don't think we're mean, but we're very direct for sure. Xavier: Its interesting because I was just reading an article, you know, and people are trying to find They know where the ackee come from, but theyre still trying to figure out how did the salt fish get into the ackee. No, Im not saying were going to kill you if you say the wrong Hypocrite. Not sensuous, sensual? It shows up in the daily protocol, how you say hello to people. If one more Georgian hits me with the "Southern hospitality" a rass maw go rass somebody. Theyre very proud of their shape, but its covered. So, people would be scared that somebody like me would come and have children here and then would leave with the children. So, Fufu is a mix of cassava, typically cassava and planting, green plantain, planting, mashed to a sticky kind of, pulp. If youre LGBTQ then there is documented truth to Jamaican being hostile. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. Thats very, very interesting. (which part of Jamaica are you from), Ruth: A come from Kingston, near Barbican, close enough to Andrews and close enough to you guys down at JC. Largest Collection Of Vintage Igbo Images [Blog]. Wi tek bad tings mek joke? So, I caan (cant) just come out and start a big, big argument with somebody whos much older than me, because it doesnt wash so well. Xavier: I can tell you this, Ghana is at the top of my list, and I will be back. Were still very conservative in Jamaica, for the most part. Mi fraid (I am afraid), but people do and I Yes. But Ghana feels like home in a different way. I didnt say jamaicans invented rudeness either. So they struggle to wrap their brains around that, unless theyve traveled. After that trip, we went up to a park in the hills-. As you clearly have nothing meaningful to say, you have been blocked from further correspondence. So, even if youre six months older than me, you get my respect. Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. Xavier: So food, lets talk food. . Theres a tradition of what happens when I bring her back home, whose will the children be? And I was like, no, but the Virgin Mary just didnt have a baby. Xavier: It was about an hour away or, yes, about that. Your experiences are yours and your observations are your own. But to others, it isn't. Its by far a more solid argument than ask anyone in the world. Being done up to the nines. treat them with disdain. Babylon give you a toy.in your mind you turn cowboy. Pretty sure Id have a great time in Jamaica. At the heart of all this is that some cultures and the specific people within them perceive Jamaican cultural cues as too aggressive because of the lenses they look through. When you treat people nice them tek disadvantage of you. Oh okay. And you think, you interpret commit commitment to it. Is Pan Chicken Different from Jerk Chicken? You know, Jamaican would say, A lie yu a tell man, a lie. (you are telling a lie), No. It comes out in society through materialism and other behaviours and characteristics. And I think youve covered it all. Xavier: You need to visit. Then we get to the attitude of being tough. There were the men and women who remembered their rich past and knew of their dark future away from their homes. Thank you for your support. We accept it! . Yes, well make it work for us. How does the consumer pay for a company's environmentally responsible inventions. Put Nuff Gravy is the anthem of many Jamaicans when they go to restaurants and street food vendors. This conservation effort always seems to get deflated when the water and light bill comes each month. Alexis Chateau sometimes includes affiliate product links and ads in the content provided. The German accent is very aggressive. They actually know right at that point that they cant come. Were assholes when were mad. I wish her all the best. We are not a racist society, but a classist one. I think the last figures I saw were 70 something percent do their main shopping in open markets. So thats classic. Ironically cutting lines is one of the things we Jamaicans hate. Aggresive. Join our newsletter to get the latest articles, news, & videos. Watching people dodging rain drops in Jamaica is like watching Neo in the movie the Matrix dodging bullets. Therefore when those blunt comments or people do get some kind of blunt thing or criticism back, my god they do not take it well. EpicJamaica (@epicjamaica) March 8, 2020, Alexis Chateau (@alexischateau_) March 8, 2020, This is one of the big reasons I'm leaving the Southeast. Ghana is not going to be delivered to you on a plate like that. If I hadnt met him, I dont know when I would have come, but I came because of him and I found all of this, which surprised me. You do not put everything out there and you do not speak your mind, just like that. / Largest Collection Of Vintage Igbo Images [Blog], Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10). FOH, Go, get a damm haircut, and learn where in Africa jamaicans came from , youre a damm fool, Instead of writing this load of crap Why does the author not ask Jamaicans to stop stealing the $4million reported by LIME to stop stealing the copper wire for residents of Manchester to have service. Because if youre from a matrilineal system, then the children belong to the mother. WebThis decision has generated more poverty for the people because while salary remains stagnant, transportation and cost of food has jumped up badly. And I think that thats what really felt good. I have ALWAYS known that the East Indies had a problem with the Jamaican ( Cuban and Haitian). What do you like most about Ghana? , They're gonna get you for this. For the east indian nations It is notRead more . Im not the one on someone elses website wailing and complaining. So, yes. Canadians are not as bossy and the Commonwealth ties sometimes makes it easier for us to catch the dry humour. Nothing compares with the Chieftaincy System, but its still very important here. Xavier: I dont remember the name of it, but, you know, I know there were a lot of kids around, it seemed like, you know, its a day trip for kids and I dont remember the name of the park. I say lord, tek (take) time nuh (no) man. Xavier: Well, thats very interesting because youre seeing some of the similarities. Here we are laughing and some random person comes over to ask why were arguing. We're not mean, they're just soft. Stupse. Chances are, you assumed they were arguing. I used to have locks and they said, Yeah, man, all Jamaicans have locks. Of course, they have that stereotype. Its beautiful to watch in motion, but social media has messed with it. If you think a Jamaican is being mean thats probably because we thought the same of you and decided to show you whatmean really is. So yes. I mean theyre very, very different places. Jamaica is the opposite. In our series of letters from African journalists, Ghanaian writer Elizabeth Ohene looks at the fraught relationship between Ghana and Nigeria, They are viewed like the most dangerous dinosaur. Having little but putting on the fake diamonds. If you don't like me, say so and move along. Xavier: It was near enough to the castles. Ruth: Who has the best Jollof rice? So, if it means that you have to hide the truth to maintain peace or to not ruffle feelings, then people will hide the truth and they dont consider it lying. You have to wait for A, B and C to happen before you go and say that this person died. Xavier: You know, I saw you when I got there. I keep telling you, Matt. So, Ghanaians are very conservative with showing their bodies. Anybody thinking of moving here, please visit first. Unregistered Wedding Ring (@askanonpro) March 7, 2020. WebRespect, Jamaica! Ruth: I mean, its generally younger people who do it. , Alexis Chateau (@alexischateau_) March 7, 2020, Moved from Jamaica to NYC so ppl would say I'm mean I can be very mean but that also depends on you, so just move outta my way n don't come to me with nonsense, VanillaBeans (@TiinaBeans) March 8, 2020. When you see people walking and their body rocks like your body rocks or when they dance. The Ghanians and Nigerians here in T.O. When broken down into the sampling group, 61 per Remember to share this article on Facebook and other Social Media Platforms. Xavier: Theres so much to unpack in that. of right-wing anti-refugee content on Facebook predicted crimes against refugees in. I love Nigerians, I dont just know, seriously Ghanians should stop the hatings, when they come over the internet, they pretend to hate us, but when they see an advert of work from a nigerian home abroad, they will be the first to rush to call over the phone that they need the job. It's not that we are mean, we just find humor in almost everything. believe that Jamaicans think they are better than Africans and Plus, some Africans What was it, what did they say? We were taught that any Although in Jamaica sexual boundaries are rigidly and violently monitored, we integrate readily and easily with different ethnicities, political views and national boundaries. Copyright Simbis Inc.All rights reserved. I think there is this feeling of inferiority and enviousness. In our Jamaicans to the World series, Jamaicans.com founder Xavier Murphy speaks with Ruth Kwakwa, a Jamaican living in Ghana. I would tell you the truth straight up. Flee from projections. The world stops when it is raining. Ghanaians are realizing that times are changing, but people are still trying to figure out how to navigate, how to maintain the culture, even with social media, which is dismantling Ageism, for example, or tradition. Two such ones are traffigator, an amalgamation of traffic and indicator as is used on a car and with an inserted g for good measure. But, I can definitely see how the French can be more passionate then the northerners are used to. A friend I have from the middle east explained how giving a thumbs up is actually the same as giving the middle finger in the U.S. But they also cant handled being cheated on for example. The culture doesnt define everyone there but can be found in many. In 2011, the figure was 40 per cent. , Sambusak in My Pak (@MoriRebel) March 8, 2020. If you catch us on a bad day, well I already warned you about our bad days. Im looking forward to, as you said, to wheel and come again.. But like seriously? Utility Bills JPS too tief, mi nuh use so much currant Xavier: So, any closing thoughts if someone said, You know what, Im moving there, any closing thoughts? We were taught that any mad/crazy slave or any slave who could not take instructions, were shipped off to Jamaica. This is inevitable as attaching your worth and identity to external things creates a very unstable self worth which is affected by the external. Because historically were so linked to Ghana. WebHaitians and Jamaicans, just like many other immigrants groups in the U.S, have tension because they see each other as competition. Too bad for them that I can compare an attitude/image to 100 different (awful) things, Ambrosia Blue Lagoon Budget (@ambrosia_omG) March 7, 2020, Not mean, we're just an extremely direct culture. Right? Thats, thats it. So, you dont see people walking around, grown women walking around with their thigh [sound break] is showing or was and I miss having a whole beach culture saying, lets, come wi (we) go beach nuh (no)?. You have to greet them in a counterclockwise direction. THE TRUTH IS this is why you are disliked, hated even, by other islanders, your other side of the family. Its a hard exterior with a soft interior and lack of emotional control. Have you ever wondered whats it like being a Jamaican living in Ghana? Jamaicans are not mean. Is a stew that they call Contumre or Palaver Sauce, which is actually dasheen leaves, cooked down with a smokey fish, cooked with Palm oil and wi (we) eat it with green, boiled green plantain, like how Jamaicans eat boil green bananas? But theyre Ghanaian kids with international attachments. differences. I can tell you this, you know, I kept saying, oh, Jamaican just saying that because its been ingrained in us to say, we come from there. Ruth: But theres the spirit that says, Its okay not to say, all right now, we can say that later. A few people eat Ackee, not many people know it, but it grows all over the place. Soon enough, someone asks the question, Why are Jamaicans so mean? In fact, not only is this the search query that brings a lot of people to my blog, but its also a question I get asked often. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that - Martin Luther King. I am sorry that that has been your experience with Jamaicans, but I cannot say the same as someone born and raised in the country and who has lived in two other countries since then. TRUTH ISJAMAICA, heroes are never hailed by people who dont know how to get off their knees. Although African slaves from other regions of Africa were also brought to Jamaica.Jamaicans can All we do is not show up and then afterwards apologize. There is also a what many call today toxic maculinity part of the culture. We dont beat around the bush and dont like To waste time. Getty Images. But, I can assure you, if you ask anyone in the world who youve just described, they would tell you: AN AMERICAN. WebJamaican English, including Jamaican Standard English, is a variety of English native to Jamaica and is the official language of the country. If we hurt your feelings yesterday, were sorry, but thicken up that skin because Lord knows we might do it again tomorrow! You know, when you enter a room, you have to greet people in a certain direction. Meanwhile, when I lived in Georgia, there were African Americans protesting at universities that affirmative action shouldnt be open to other non-White races/ethnicities and that Black people from other countries shouldnt have access either. Personally don't see how Jamaicans get labeled as mean tho lol. And I think that thats why we have this whole salt fish story going on. Ruth: Another thing is, and where we run into this all the time is, if a plumber comes to the house and they say, Boy, you can fix this pipe? Yes, man. . The sense of humor is different, but its still very I think whats common to both countries, is that sense of humanity, where people are a bit more forgiving of each other and, yes, warmer and fuzzier. That lady didnt come to find answers. Yes. Maybe thats the Jamaicans you attracted and the circles you moved in. As an author, you must be doing so badly that you had to find some ignorance to stir up some attention. Stock Photos from Photos.com, iStockPhotos.com, 123rf. The short answer is NO, it's not hard at all. Whats the, if Im coming to Ghana, I cant say whats your favorite, but whats the thing that we must try. Xavier: Well listen, Ruth, I appreciate you taking time out of your busy day to tell us about Ghana. And this has happened in EVERY country I travel to. Because were known for If wi like yu, yu gonna know it. (if we like you, you are going to know it). Britt The Beauty (@Britt__Da__Shit) March 8, 2020. Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. And it, I mean-. Whatsapp. Because matrilineally, our kids belong to my family and not my husbands family. But I wasnt a historian. [2] [3] [4] [5] History [ edit] My mother always says when we keep having negative experiences in life, we should consider that were the common denominator and then examine why that is. I dont know. We own it. Just easy yourself and itll be Jamaica; no problem, I come with baggage (@aly_berry1) March 8, 2020, So, what did she want you to say? An intriguing and fascinating story; adopted from the book The ORIGINAL JAMAICAN Patois: Words, Phrases and Short Stories, Mi granny always used to sehJamaican Proverbs, Funny But True: Croaking Lizards and Jamaicans. Rhaatid! Xavier: I can tell you this, when I was planning the trip there and for years, I keep hearing everybody seh (say), you know, Ghana feels like home. People tend to be industrious, imaginative, and contrary to another unwelcome stereotype hard Bob said "the truth is an offense, but never a sin". Ruth: So, I hooked up with a Ghanaian at university in the US, and we got married, in Jamaica. Xavier: Good. i have a lot of Jamaicans friends and i give all the respect drew to them god bless all my springfield Jamaican. No humans like to be critisized or wrong but the force seems stronger in the jamaican culture. WebHowever, we do know that hate speech on social media in modern. I dont feel it is just a Barbadian problem as it is regional. We generally dont beat around the bush. Between 1845 and 1917, more than 36,000 Indians came from British India to British Jamaica because of the deteriorating socio-economic conditions in India at the time. As time went on, I learned of the MAROON settlement and of the slaves who fled to the mountains in Jamaica. This jamaican bank lady. Again ot all are like this of course, but its a trend. I wouldnt say that, its not that I dont like it, but its harder to get used to. It also comes down to where you went to school, where you work, who you know, what you drive, where you live, how often you travel, the first impression you give off, how you carry yourself, etc. Jamaicans are notorious for finding ways to get to the front of long lines. So you get lost in a maze of market and thats where, thats the heartbeat of Ghana. Kirk Campbell, i dont know if youre a jamaican but Im one, and we are a very aggressive people, yes, aggressive. And I know dancehall music has gotten quite popular there, with some Ghana artists that have come out and performed with Jamaicans, so well have to have a music segment. I can respect that. They do so because CLASS is what runs our society and money is not the only determining factor associated with class for us. I appreciate your outlook and will say that we get on much better with Canadians than Americans, in Jamaica. WebJamaicans do not take kindly to insults. Back to Vegas: Im Driving Across the Country in the Middle of a Pandemic. A prime example of this is America. We're honest. The belief is that all Ghanaians are predisposed to it. If you would like to evacuate a room of Jamaicans quickly, scream croaking lizard. I thought who are the mad people here, the ones who ran for their freedom or the ones who bowed down and remained slaves? Hello Kim! This is the number one reason Jamaicans gave for why so many people think were downright mean. Ruth: Yes. So theres a whole old school, what we consider to be an old school conversation around that. WebJamaicans are all hustlers. Its almost like walking through a historic city. Ruth: Im good Xavier. So, much like we talk about Patois being or soul or heart language. So, its hierarchical in terms of tradition, in terms of gender, in terms of age. However, your observation of how that pride plays out is shallow and inaccurate. Who the first time Audley came, I ah she (a said), come, yuh (you) have to go to a market. Yes. I think its beautiful to watch that. The sad part about this history is that Jamaicans came to believe the propaganda. WebWhat I have realized from going between both communities is this belief that my fellow Jamaicans hold that, most African Americans are lazy, unambitious and therefore deserve whatever negative attitude they may receive from a majority class. 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